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You are here: Home / Plant Propagation / Seed / Growing Seeds, Winter Sowing, in Milk Jugs and Kitty Litter Jugs.

Growing Seeds, Winter Sowing, in Milk Jugs and Kitty Litter Jugs.

Updated : June 17, 2024

36 Comments

Roger Higgins explains how to make mini greenhouses for sowing seeds.

Roger Higgins explains how to make mini greenhouses for sowing seeds.

Meet Roger Higgins from Roger’s Backyard Nursery in Cranesville, Pa.  Every one of those plastic jugs next to Roger contains seeds.  Some are perennial seeds, some might be Dogwood Seeds, maybe some Japanese maple seeds.

Some of the jugs are milk jugs, the bigger jugs are kitty litter jugs.  If you look closely Roger has each jug numbered and he has a record in the house of what’s in each jug.  Pretty organized right?

Roger Higgins and Duston McGroarty discuss growing seeds in the rain.

Roger Higgins and Duston McGroarty discuss growing seeds in the rain.

In our recent trip to Roger’s nursery Duston and I shot several videos that day with Roger.  It was raining and at times pretty much pouring.  Duston was shooting the videos with an I-pad and we didn’t want the device to get soaked so Roger went in and got Duston this cute umbrella.  To protect the device of course!  Roger and I got soaked, I was taking stills with my phone and it got soaked.  But we had a good time as you’ll see in the videos as I post them.

And we captured a lot of great information.

Roger will tell you that he is a machinist by trade and knew little about growing plants until he found http://mikesbackyardnursery.com/.  But I have to tell you, Roger has been an awesome student and he has the coolest backyard nursery ever, and he sells a lot of plants out of his backyard in the rural community of Cranesville, Pa.  And he’s a nice guy!

Be sure to watch the video as Roger and I discuss how he grows these seeds and he explains how he makes these little greenhouses out of plastic jugs.  Roger is an innovator and he found a way to improve upon a method that has been around for a long time.

In the video you can see how wet we are!

Thanks Roger for allowing us to invade your backyard and tell Venice that a little rain won’t hurt her.  She stayed in the house!  However, I’ll bet during plant selling season she gets plenty wet on rainy days while she tends to selling plants when Roger is at work.

Great people both of them!  Love having them as Members.

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Comments

  1. Rosemary Weaver says

    February 15, 2024 at 4:50 pm

    Hi, I have enjoyed my subscription to Backyard Garwdener for years and especially the topic of the wooden containers to start pieces of arborvitae outdoors. One day I couldn’t receive any emails so my husband went through and cleared out all of my emails. Sadly I lost the video of Mike showing how to make the boxes to set on the ground that would prevent them from immediately rooting into the soil. I believe this video was posted around the last part of 2023 or the first of 2024. I have searched all over the website and utube videos to find said video, but was unsuccessful. Is there a way you could repost that video or in some way give me access to that video again? Many thanks for the wonderful information you have shared.

    Reply
    • Mike says

      February 16, 2024 at 6:59 am

      Rosemary,

      This? https://mikesbackyardnursery.com/2014/01/how-to-make-homemade-plant-propagation-flats/ or this https://mikesbackyardnursery.com/2015/10/how-to-build-a-plant-propagation-bed-for-rooting-cuttings/

      Reply
  2. PJ says

    August 11, 2023 at 10:09 am

    Would the milk/cat little jugs be a good method for sowing and overwintering nut tree seeds or would squirrels and raccoons be able to raid them?

    Reply
    • Mike says

      August 12, 2023 at 8:00 am

      I’m sure you’d have to secure the tops in place.

      Reply
  3. Kim says

    October 17, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Great ideas!!!thanks

    Reply
  4. Kathy says

    October 17, 2017 at 10:47 am

    Love the idea of milk jugs.
    Do the jugs have to be white?

    Reply
    • Mike says

      October 18, 2017 at 5:00 pm

      Kathy,

      No, I don’t think so.

      Reply
  5. Nicola says

    June 4, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    I wonder weather this method would work here. Some seeds need really cold to germinate and it would not be good to protect them (at least not in my climate were the temperature rarely drops under 5 below freezing) I wonder which seeds would like the cozy atmosphere and which would like it a bit colder. The good thing about the jugs is that the light is somewhat filtered I literally cooked some seeds with an old window pane….

    Reply
    • judy whitworth says

      June 25, 2022 at 10:29 am

      refrigerator is 40 degrees that is were we stradtisfie so i don’t think it needs to be as cold as one thinks. just saying..

      Reply
  6. Ron Knight says

    April 8, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Great info Mike. Thanks a bunch! will this home made green house work with starting vegetable seedlings as well?

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 9, 2017 at 8:50 am

      Ron,

      It will, but I’d the veggies inside where it’s warm and not let them freeze.

      Reply
  7. Tammie Milburn says

    April 7, 2017 at 12:00 am

    Hi Mike
    My Lentin Rose seeds are starting to come up around it last year .
    I recall u saying something about how hard it is to start from them from seed.
    I didn’t touch them. This year they r a little taller plus I have lots of new starts coming up again this year.
    Is it possible to transplant the ones from last yr. into some kind of small
    Pot or would it be best to leave them alone for another yr or so? I also have some of my Hosta’s seeds
    coming up in all kinds of places in my shade Garden. I never knew Hosta’s would multiply a few feet from the original ones.
    I need to move the ones that have started coming up this yr. This will be their 3rd yr.
    it’s so exciting.

    I would appreciate any advice u can give me.
    Thank you
    Tammie

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 7, 2017 at 8:28 am

      Tammie,

      You can transplant some of the roses now, especially if they haven’t leafed out yet. If they do have leaves just be careful to loosen the soil so as to not break any roots as you move them. Hosta can actually be transplanted, even divided later in the spring once they finish that spring flush of new growth. Just cut the tops back as they will wilt down any way. But let them flush out with new growth first, allow that growth to harden off for a few weeks, then you can move them.

      Reply
  8. ED HOLT says

    April 6, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    1st of all I love all the information that I get from you folks. Just want to say Thank You to Mike , Dustin, and Roger great information. I also
    like the way y’all speak in layman’s terms so simple minded people like me understands everything you say and explain. My thoughts to Alfred B.. about the problem with pachysandra. IF you don’t see nothing like insects or any type of disease,I would probably go to my knees with a hand shovel and scrap back the top soil very gently keeping a sharp eye out for anything that looks out of place
    Do just a little poking around with the tool again very gently you may find your problem that way. Also as you are doing the process of elimination think of everything you’ve done in the past to see if you have changed anything. If all else fails you are in the perfect position to pray about it that helps me with most anything. God bless

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 7, 2017 at 8:29 am

      Thanks Ed, great information.

      Reply
  9. phyllis lobbins says

    April 5, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    I’ve been using the winter sowing method for a few years now, and I also use twist ties to close the jugs.
    I think any video on winter sowing should mention Trudie Davidoff who pioneered the method.

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 6, 2017 at 11:23 am

      Phyllis,

      I agree and since I’ve never really researched it I was unaware of who pioneered the method so thanks for sharing this information.

      Reply
  10. Mike Smith says

    April 5, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    I paid over $400 for a life time membership in Backyard Growers. I am trying to log in and can’t. I tried to reset pass word and can’t I get no response from Mike.

    Reply
    • Mike Smith says

      April 5, 2017 at 12:46 pm

      $497

      Reply
    • Mike says

      April 5, 2017 at 6:43 pm

      Mike,

      I’m sorry you are having a problem, I sent your info to Duston in the office, he will get you straightened out. If not tonight, for sure in the morning. Be sure to check your spam folder to make sure his messages are not going to spam. He checks our email several times a day.

      Reply
  11. Doug says

    April 4, 2017 at 11:54 pm

    When does he sow and when does he transplant?
    Thanx

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 5, 2017 at 8:07 am

      Doug,

      Some things like Japanese maples and dogwood seeds are sown in the fall, perennial seeds later in the winter. I’ll see if I can get more detail about that from Roger.

      Reply
      • Roger Higgins says

        April 5, 2017 at 9:31 am

        I do most of my perennial seeds starting about mid December and do some all through winter. When they start isn’t as important. They are dormant all winter just like in nature. The wet helps break down any hinderance for germination and that starts once it warms up.
        They can be transplante as soon as they starty getting their real set of leaves. No hardening off is necessary with this method.

        Reply
        • Mike says

          April 5, 2017 at 9:38 am

          Great info Roger, thank you for helping out here.

          Reply
        • Marta S says

          April 5, 2017 at 12:08 pm

          Inspiring, Roger! Love to see how others do this. I’ll be copying you this coming winter for sure!

          Reply
          • Roger Higgins says

            April 5, 2017 at 7:20 pm

            Good luck Marta. Just make sure there are plenty of drainage holes in the bottom.

  12. Carmen says

    April 4, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    can you please email me the soil recipe ???/

    the email I gave got rejected as INVALID..:(

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 5, 2017 at 8:07 am

      Carmen,

      Here are some tips on getting good potting soil;

      Looking online for mulch is probably not the best place to look because many of the dealers who sell mulch really have little to no web presence at all. I’m sure there has to be some hardwood bark available in New Jersey.

      I’d pick up the phone and start calling around. Garden Centers, landscapers and excavators will know who sells bulk hardwood bark mulch. These dealers are often hidden away on some side street.

      I’d take a full day and visit as many garden centers and nurseries in your area that you can. Browse, ask some casual questions.

      1. Do you know of anybody in the area that sells bulk mulch.

      2. Do you know of anybody in the area that sells bulk potting soil.

      3. What do most growers around here use as a potting mix.

      Bulk potting soil is available, usually around $55 a yard, but worth it. But it’s not readily available in all areas and in most cases you need to send a truck to get it.

      But it won’t cost anything to ask these questions. You’ll either get really good, answers, might get the brush off, or you might find somebody who loves to talk about growing plants and will bury you in valuable information.

      Good info here about potting soil, http://mikesbackyardnursery.com/2014/12/mike-mcgroartys-secret-bed-building-and-potting-soil-recipe/

      and here;
      http://mikesbackyardnursery.com/2015/10/how-to-make-your-own-awesome-potting-soil/

      Reply
      • Roger Higgins says

        April 5, 2017 at 9:33 am

        I just use cheap bagged potting soil in the jugs. Don’t waste money on sterile soil because you will get some weeds in the jugs. I have even used old potting soil from potted annuals that I dumped.

        Reply
  13. Jane says

    April 4, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    My grandfather would have loved this. He specialized in trees. He would cut away the corner opposite of the handle and plant trees and seeds in them. He must have had at least a 1000 or more in his back yard! Thank you for the walk down Memory Lane!

    Reply
  14. Nicole says

    April 4, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    Great idea, I think this would work particularly well here in the dry southwest as it would contain needed moisture. My question is, how do you transplant these seedlings so that they can be placed in containers for sale? Thanks for the always valuable information!

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 5, 2017 at 8:09 am

      Nicole,

      Once they are big enough and hardy enough to transplant you can slip the whole jug full out on to a bench the slowly work them apart. Or prick them out when smaller and transplant into small cell packs.

      Reply
    • Roger Higgins says

      April 5, 2017 at 9:36 am

      You may need to use the lid to keep moisture in the jug and actually water them if you don’t get raiin. This method relys on nature’s watering system.

      Reply
      • Mike says

        April 5, 2017 at 9:37 am

        Thanks Roger!

        Reply
  15. Alfred Beronio says

    April 4, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    Mike, wha’ts going on this year? My daffodils are going gangbusters like I have never seen including ones I never divided. But my pachysandra is going south, big timme, in large well established beds

    Reply
    • Mike says

      April 5, 2017 at 8:11 am

      Alfred, it’s been a crazy winter, that’s up with the daffodils, but the pachysandra? Not sure. All I can say is give it some time and see how it looks in a few weeks.

      Reply

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